{"id":209,"date":"2011-08-02T15:24:51","date_gmt":"2011-08-02T14:24:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ridgesolutions.ie\/?p=209"},"modified":"2011-08-02T15:24:51","modified_gmt":"2011-08-02T14:24:51","slug":"google-app-engine-transienterror-in-cloud","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ridgesolutions.ie\/index.php\/2011\/08\/02\/google-app-engine-transienterror-in-cloud\/","title":{"rendered":"Google App Engine &#8211; TransientError in Cloud"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We were engulfed by a blizzard of Google task queue &#8216;TransientErrors&#8217; over the weekend, the &#8216;TransientError&#8217; is one most ellusive of google app engine errors.  This is what the official documentation has to say of it:<\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>exception TransientError(Error)<br \/>\n  There was a transient error while accessing the queue. Please try again later.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This very detailed description has left many scratching their heads wondering (a) Why they are getting the errors and (b) What should they do about them!<\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>So far, the best description I could find of the error is here:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/osdir.com\/ml\/GoogleAppEngine\/2009-06\/msg01337.html\">http:\/\/osdir.com\/ml\/GoogleAppEngine\/2009-06\/msg01337.html<\/a><\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>A TransientError is an unexpected but transient failure. Typically it<br \/>\nis a deadlined or otherwise missed connection between two backends in<br \/>\nour system. We distinguish TransientError from InternalError to say<br \/>\nthat transient errors failed but were expected to succeed (and<br \/>\nretrying will probably work), whereas InternalError is quite<br \/>\nunexpected and retries will have no effect.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>This seems to suggest that you shouldn&#8217;t worry too much about them as they happen rarely and the automatic retry should work &#8211; no harm done&#8230;<\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>In our experience however it seems that the error is far from transient in that it often occurs in batches with the retries experiencing the error too &#8211; it causes our app to grind to a halt, the whole thing tends to snowball.  It is like something fairly serious goes wrong with the google cloud and things just stop working.<\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>Does anybody know if there is any reliable way of handling these errors when they occur? <\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>And more seriously, can an application be made reliable on the google cloud with nasty undocumented errors like this cropping up in batches every few months?  I suppose software development for cloud environments is still really only in its infancy, developers and platform suppliers have a lot to learn, but unexplained stealth errors like the TransientError really doesn&#8217;t help the situation!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We were engulfed by a blizzard of Google task queue &#8216;TransientErrors&#8217; over the weekend, the &#8216;TransientError&#8217; is one most ellusive of google app engine errors. 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